Marcel Dempers, a.k.a That DevOps Guy, and William Morgan chat about DevOps and the service mesh. From what it takes to become a DevOps engineer to Linkerd’s origin story, how Linkerd works, and why a service mesh doesn’t have to be an overly complex part of a system. Tune in to hear how William got into the infrastructure space and how his experience being on-call at Twitter drove Linkerd’s focus on user empathy, and lots more.